Pre
1920's
Helen "Nellie"
Ryder was born in 1904 and became a pupil at Ducie Avenue
Central School. She was a Junior member of the Victoria Swimming
Club. The centre photograph below shows her with a trophy which
is now on loan to the Friends of Victoria Baths. Helen married
Frederick McGrath and brought up 11 children. She continued to swim
until the age of 90, although by this time she had become blind.
Helen McGrath died in 1995. Many thanks to T.McGrath for this information
and the two photographs (left and centre) below.
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The
Senior Ladies of Victoria Swimming Club in the "Female
Plunge" around 1919
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Helen
'Nellie' Ryder 1916
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Victoria
Baths Water Polo Team - 1906
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1920's
Phyllis Walters
We girls used to sneak thru' the adjoining doors to take a peek
at the boys - those that could not afford swimming costumes were
loaned very small slips, that was very exciting for us. The "tubs"
were intended for washing feet before entering the plunge, but we
stayed in the plunge until we were frozen then proceeded to the
tubs, squeezed in so tightly so that we sat with our bottoms in
the spreadeagled legs of the swimmers behind us until another person
could not get in. In our very early teens we thought the members
of the water polo team were gods.
Mrs. N Dudley
I was born in 1918 in one of the streets opposite the Baths. It
was a terraced house, with no bathroom, and as I became older, in
my teens, my sister used to take me to the wash baths for my "weekly
bathe". I shall never forget my first bath! The cubicle seemed
huge - and the bath was so big - I floated on top of the water!
Margaret Jump
My parents have both been involved in Victoria. My father Robert
Henry Williams worked at Victoria possibly before the 1914 war and
certainly after he came home from the war in 1918. He worked his
way up to become foreman and later I understand to managerial position.
My mother worked in various areas at the Baths, the wash baths,
the Turkish Baths and later as office staff. They became an "item"
as they say today and married on Saturday August 29th 1925. Later
when my father died my mother returned to Victoria Baths to work
at the laundry. It was hard work but the group of ladies she worked
with were a jolly crowd.
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Robert
Williams with Margaret
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Swimmers
in the Males 1st Class Pool
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1930's
D A Torrington
One could buy a cup of Oxo for one penny (old money) on the way
out and we sang songs all the way back to St. Robert's School, Hamilton
Rd, Longsight. Later on as I grew a little older, I plucked up the
courage and went in mixed bathing. In those days that was quite
an innovation and to me rather daring.
Alice Borking
I went to Plymouth Grove School. My sisters and I joined South Manchester
Swimming Club. Our instructor was Nellie Laverty. I was Junior Captain
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1940's
Edward Gill
I remember Victoria Baths - High Street Baths very well from my
school days at Ducie Avenue from 1943-1945. We used to go to the
Baths every week for swimming lessons - walking in a long line from
Ducie Avenue on Denmark Road.>
Arthur Goodwin
Won a wallet here swimming with the Boys Brigade in the Galas. Boys
only was nude swimming - did our best to find out if girls only
was the same!!
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Halmed
When I was 17 we would come swimming on Friday afternoon and
dancing on Friday night to Phil Moss Band, Frankie Vaughan
was the lead singer.
Derek Johnston
In the 1940s I used to go in the First Class Males Victoria
Swimming Baths. In the far left corner was a porcelain trough
full of very hot clean water and the attendants made sure
you went in there first. Four or five men and boys would be
in there at a time. The water was up to your armpits and the
little tablets of soap dissolved away completely before you
could get them inside your bathing costume! Every five minutes
an attendant would place more tablets of soap on the edge,
even if the last lot were unused. Many of them fell straight
into the water. It seemed to me the ritual of the trough was
to waste as much soap as possible without getting anybody
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Swimming
Club programme found at Victoria Baths, relating to a club
outing held in 1949
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1950's
George Robert Kinder
>At around the age of 8-10 we sometimes used to swim in the pool
without our trunks on. Occasionally a female attendant from the
girls pool would come through the adjoining door to speak to the
male attendants. All the naked swimmers would dive in the water
and swim to the side in embarrassment.
D Thompson
I worked at the Baths from 1951 to 1954. The Botham family lived
upstairs. Their father was the Superintendent of all the baths in
Manchester so they got the living accommodation with the job. I
used to swim with Jean Botham after the Baths had closed. With her
living there we could swim all night sometimes, till her mum and
dad came to make us get out of the pool. Jean Botham and Roy Botham
were the first brother and sister to swim in the Olympics, in Helsinki
in the 1950s.
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Laundry
workers in the 1950's, photograph from Margaret Jump
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Many
a certificate was awarded at Victoria Baths, this one to
Dave Evans
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"Our
Gang" at Victoria Baths, 1953 photograph from T.Buckley
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1960's |

Bowls
in the First Class "Pool" |
Frank
Rhodes
When we went on Thursday mornings from Ardwick Tech for swimming
lessons our class was the first to use the pool. On entering
the changing cubicles a man with a long pole with a large
ladle came in scooping at the water. We didn't pay too much
attention to this, until we found he was taking out the cockroaches
that had fallen from the metal work above overnight. After
that we found holding our breath a lot easier than before,
but it seemed to make the footwash before entering the baths
a little insignificant, it seems the cockroaches were better
swimmers than we were.
Alan Sloan
I once made a very short non-porno movie in the Turkish Baths
with an art student friend, just wandering around in a dressing
gown in the luxurious ceramic tiled "undergrowth". |
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1970's
Karen
Shalders
I especially remember the swimming do's and don'ts sign and being
in fits of giggles with my pals over the 'NO PETTING' order.
Ruth Ashton
Claremont Rd Junior School used to come here for its annual gala.
In one of the two races a little girl - Valerie Pemberton, used
to the shorter length of Broadfield Rd Pool, got into difficulties
half way down the pool. Everybody stared in horror for what seemed
like ages, but was probably seconds. Then, a member of staff - Bob
Raw, dived in fully clothed as he realised the attendant life savers
had no intention of going in and rescued her. To add to his "heroism",
he was a sufferer of psoriasis, and wasn't supposed to get his head
wet.
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Photographs
by David Montford of a Manchester Inter Towns Gala at Victoria
Baths in 1973
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1980's
and 1990's
Hilary Bichovsky
I used to go to shower and sauna - could spend hours there. It felt
communal - a peaceful place for women to be together. And not functional
and stripped down like the modern pools. Ornament, decoration, twiddles
- a fitting environment for relaxation.
Ian N. McRae
I had been persuaded, by a relative, of the pleasurable benefit
of using in my domestic bath water, a green substance known commercially
as Badedas. The odour was certainly attractive and refreshing and
it occurred to me that a small quantity of this substance could
enhance the pleasure of aerotone bathing. I attended the aerotone
suite at an appointed time equipped with a small bottle of the green
substance. The attendant was fully prepared for with, temperature
and flow pressure accurately adjusted and stabilised. As he had
other work to deal with he asked if I was happy to be left for a
few minutes. In my usual state of undress, I measured a small capful
of the Badedas and emptied this into the gently foaming water. The
foaming began gently at first and then became explosive. In a matter
of minutes the whole room was a foot deep in perfumed white bubbles.
Unfortunately the enterprise of seeking assistance is much reduced
by nudity. But luckily, the aerotone operative returned and managed
to switch off the pump before I had become submerged, possibly forever,
in Badedas foam!
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Photographs
by Ruth Corney
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You Remember the Victoria Baths? |
If so we would
love to hear from you. The Friends
of Victoria Baths are currently researching the history
of the Baths over the 20th Century. The Friends have produced
a history leaflet and a book
on the history of the Victoria Baths.
E-mail your memories to info@victoriabaths.org.uk
or write to Studio 20, Longsight Business Park,
Longsight, Manchester, M13 0PD or phone (+44)
0161 224 2020.
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